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Terminate the Turf War | BTTBS Webinar

Terminate the Turf War | BTTBS Webinar

Terminate the Turf War.  Amplify the Impact.

If your customer advocacy program and customer community are still operating in separate lanes, you’re not just missing opportunities—you’re wasting them.

This session cuts through the noise with a practical, no-fluff guide to uniting these two powerful engines of engagement.

Learn how to:

  • Build smarter, more meaningful customer connections
  • Identify advocates without the scavenger hunt
  • Scale your program’s impact and prove measurable results

If you’re a customer marketing or advocacy professional ready to move from maintenance mode to momentum, this is your blueprint. The time to act is now—because in today’s environment, siloed efforts don’t just slow you down—they hold you back.

Featuring special guest:
Dave Hansen, Global Customer Advocacy Program Manager, Siemens

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Why the “Turf War” Happens

Despite shared objectives — stronger customer relationships, higher retention, and increased lifetime value — customer advocacy and customer community initiatives often function as separate entities:

  • Customer Advocacy programs focus on identifying and activating passionate customers who can serve as references, case study contributors, testimonials, beta users, or product champions.
  • Customer Community efforts center on building a space (online portal, forum, social group) where users can interact with one another, share knowledge, and strengthen brand loyalty through peer engagement.

This siloed approach limits visibility into who customers truly are, what drives their engagement, and how best to activate them strategically.

Key Strategies for Community Alignment

The webinar provides a no-fluff, tactical framework for uniting advocacy and community functions. While the original webinar itself is concise, its core insights are strategic and highly actionable:

1. Shared Goals and Alignment

Rather than running parallel programs that barely intersect, organizations should create shared objectives for advocacy and community teams. These might include:

  • Improving Net Promoter Score (NPS)
  • Increasing participation in community discussions and advocacy programs
  • Driving product feedback loops
  • Enhancing peer knowledge sharing

Setting measurable goals that tie to broader business outcomes (e.g., revenue impact, customer retention) encourages collaboration rather than competition.

2. Use Community as a Talent Pool for Advocates

One practical way teams can work together is by using community engagement signals to identify potential advocates. Instead of searching high and low for customers who might be willing to participate in case studies or testimonials, teams can identify individuals already active and vocal in community forums. These individuals:

  • Demonstrate commitment
  • Engage peers
  • Offer valuable feedback
  • Act as natural advocates

By treating the community as a pipeline for advocacy, both teams benefit — community gets recognition and growth, while advocacy gains vetted, enthusiastic participants.

3. Cross-Functional Processes and Workflows

Aligning teams means more than simply agreeing to collaborate; it means creating workflows that operationalize collaboration. Examples include:

  • Joint planning sessions
  • Shared dashboards and metrics
  • Coordinated campaigns
  • Cross-functional playbooks

When both teams understand when and how to collaborate — and how success will be measured — it becomes easier to break down internal barriers and accelerate impact.

Who Should Watch

This webinar is especially relevant for:

  • Customer advocacy leaders
  • Community managers
  • Customer success professionals
  • Marketing strategists
  • Product teams looking to increase customer engagement
  • Business leaders looking to improve ROI on customer programs

If your organization wants to move beyond operationally maintaining customer programs to strategically growing them, this kind of alignment is essential.

It Started With a Legitimate Aspiration

It's only natural that many advocacy leaders have landed on the same objective: make the program easier to use by meeting users where they're already working.

Today, that increasingly means Microsoft Copilot, ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini or whatever generative AI assistant employees happen to have open.

Imagine a salesperson simply asking AI, "Find me three German healthcare customers using product Y, willing to speak with a prospect," instead of navigating to another interface, or waiting for someone from advocacy, or elsewhere, to respond. It's easy to see the appeal. Removing friction has always been one of the fastest ways to increase adoption.

It is exactly the right instinct.

The difficult parts, arguably the reason program managers exist, occur before and after AI says, "Here are your three best matches."

The value advocacy professionals bring is the ability to operationalize and scale customer advocacy for maximum impact. Quality advocate information doesn't just appear, it's the result of a system.

What's Next?

Now that the user has three advocates, what should happen?

  • Should they email the customer directly?
  • Should they contact the Customer Success Manager first?
  • The account executive for one of the accounts was about to make a request. Was that considered?
  • Has anyone noticed that this customer has already participated in three activities in the last 60 days?
  • Are they currently navigating a difficult support issue?
  • Did they recently decline another invitation?
  • Would someone else actually be a better choice?

Notice what happened. The search was completed.

The next steps are just as manual as ever if AI search is the be all, end all.

Reality Check
AI can tell you who could participate. It can't tell you who should participate unless someone (or something) has been keeping score.

Haven't We Seen This Movie Before?

This is where the story starts to feel strangely familiar.

Many companies still operate their program using spreadsheets, scattered CRM fields, shared drives, email folders, and the remarkable memories of a handful of program managers.

Eventually, organizations realize they aren't managing an advocacy program at all. They're managing lists that happen to contain advocates.

But the shortcomings are real:

  • A spreadsheet might tell you that Sarah from ABC Company has spoken at a conference. It couldn't tell you that she'd spoken three times already this quarter.
  • Custom CRM fields could tell you a customer was referenceable. They alone couldn't coordinate approvals, notify relationship owners, recognize participation, measure outcomes, or attribute revenue.

Purpose-built advocacy platforms emerged because advocacy is much more than a search problem.

Ironically, AI has convinced some organizations to revisit the same shortcut they worked so hard to escape.

When Search Replaces Process

Let's imagine two different worlds.

In the first, AI recommends an advocate for a sales call.

  1. A request is automatically created.
  2. The Customer Success Manager approves participation.
  3. The customer receives preparation materials.
  4. The call takes place.
  5. The activity is recorded.
  6. Recognition is issued.
  7. The opportunity is linked to the advocacy activity.
  8. If the deal closes, revenue attribution updates automatically.
  9. Executive dashboards reflect the contribution.

Months later, AI knows this customer recently participated and may deserve a break before being asked again.

Now imagine the second world.

  1. AI recommends the same advocate.
  2. The salesperson sends an email.
  3. The customer agrees.
  4. The meeting happens.
  5. Everyone moves on.

Three months later someone asks how many customer reference contributed to the revenue this quarter.

Silence. Nobody really knows.

The advocacy happened...hopefully. The program didn't. Collectively, the organization slowly stopped feeding the very system it depended on to understand its advocacy program.

Reality Check
If AI helps facilitate twenty closed-won opportunities this quarter, but none are recorded, your executive dashboard still says zero.

Invisible Work Stays Invisible

One of the easiest mistakes to make in an AI-first world is assuming that successful interactions somehow become organizational knowledge on their own.

They don't.

If a customer agrees to speak with a prospect and nobody records it, the organization loses far more than a single activity.

  • It loses context, attribution, and recognition.
  • It loses another piece of history that could have helped improve the next decision.

The most valuable advocacy data isn't simply who your customers are.

It's everything they've done.

  • Every request, acceptance/decline, event presentation, analyst interview, product beta, reference call, press interview, reward, closed-won opportunity revenue influenced by their participation.

That's the story AI actually wants to read.

AI Needs Memory, Not Just Data

It's often said that AI needs good data.

That's true.

But operational history is far more valuable than static customer information.

  • Advocate profiles answer questions about who someone is.
  • Operational history answers questions about what consistently works.
  • That's where AI begins uncovering insights that no spreadsheet could ever reveal.
  • Perhaps healthcare advocates participate twice as often as financial services advocates.
  • Perhaps customers who join advisory boards are twice as likely to become conference speakers.
  • Maybe advocates who receive recognition within a week participate significantly more often than those who don't.

Those aren't search results.Those are patterns.

  • Patterns emerge from history.
  • History emerges from process.
  • Process emerges from systems.

Remove any one of those pieces and AI becomes little more than an exceptionally fast search engine.

Reality Check
Every workflow skipped today is a pattern AI won't discover tomorrow.

Don't Stop at "Who?"

The AI revolution has created tremendous excitement, and rightly so. Finding the right advocate is becoming dramatically easier than it was only a few years ago.

That's worth celebrating.

Just don't confuse a better search experience with a better advocacy program. Search is only one chapter in the story.

The organizations that see the greatest return from AI won't necessarily be the ones with the most sophisticated models.

They'll be the ones with the richest operational history.

  • Every request becomes institutional memory.
  • Every activity measured.
  • Every contribution attributable.
  • Every outcome becomes another lesson AI can learn from.

Those organizations won't use AI merely to answer the question, "Who should we ask?"

They'll use AI to answer far more valuable questions.

  • "Where are we running short of advocates?"
  • "When is the most effective time to use advocates?"
  • "What types of advocacy generate the greatest business impact?"
  • "What patterns have we been missing?"

That's when AI stops behaving like a better Google search.

That's when it starts behaving like a strategic partner.

Finding the right advocate has always been the opening scene.

If your AI can find advocates but your program can't learn from using them, you've built a remarkable search engine instead of a remarkable advocacy program.