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How Product and Customer Marketing Drive Growth | CMA Podcast

How Product and Customer Marketing Drive Growth | CMA Podcast

About this Episode

Featured Guest: Ian Hameroff

In this episode of The CustomerX Files, Alison is joined by Ian Hameroff, founder of Fulcrum Group. Ian reflects on his 20+ year career in product marketing and helps shine a light on the world of a product marketer, a partner-to-customer marketer often misunderstood or undervalued. Alison and Ian talk about misconceptions between these two marketing disciplines and how they can complement each other quite nicely, perhaps even be on the same team. This is a must-listen for customer marketing and advocacy professionals who want to take their relationships with internal stakeholders to the next level and level up their programs.

Ian brings more than 20 years of experience helping companies shape their product strategies and navigate go-to-market challenges. This conversation is a deep dive into how product marketers and customer marketers can not only coexist but complement each other in ways that sharpen positioning, accelerate adoption, and ultimately contribute to sustainable revenue growth.

Product Marketing versus Customer Marketing?

While many organizations treat product and customer marketing as separate functions, Alison and Ian break down why that perspective is limiting and how a more collaborative approach unlocks far greater impact. They tackle common misconceptions, clarify the unique value each discipline offers, and illustrate how their combined efforts fuel success at every stage of the customer journey.

Product marketing plays a pivotal role in shaping how products are positioned, communicated, and introduced to the market — transforming product features into compelling value propositions that resonate with the right audiences. It’s about understanding buyer needs, differentiating offerings in competitive landscapes, and enabling cross-functional teams (like sales and marketing) with the right narrative and tools.

On the other hand, customer marketing focuses on nurturing and strengthening relationships with existing customers, driving retention, loyalty, advocacy, and expansion opportunities through tailored campaigns, customer insights, and strategic engagement programs. Customer marketing ensures that once a product earns adoption, customers continue to see value, renew, and ultimately become passionate advocates.

Cross-Functional Marketing

During the episode, Ian and Alison dig into how these two functions intersect, emphasizing that neither thrives in isolation. Product marketers benefit from customer insights such as feedback on product adoption, usage behavior, and sentiment,  to refine positioning and influence future development priorities. Meanwhile, customer marketers can leverage product marketing’s research and messaging frameworks to craft more personalized and impactful customer communications.

This partnership creates a feedback loop that elevates both disciplines: product marketing helps the organization understand “what” to say about value, while customer marketing helps bring that value to life with real customers and durable relationships. Together, they ensure that marketing strategies are customer-centric, data-informed, and aligned with real market needs.

Listeners will walk away with a deeper appreciation for:

  • The distinct yet interconnected roles of product marketing and customer marketing — and why both are essential for growth.
  • How collaboration drives greater organizational alignment, especially between product, marketing, sales, and customer success teams.
  • Ways to share customer insights effectively across teams to improve messaging, product adoption, and customer satisfaction.
  • Strategies for positioning marketing initiatives that support both acquisition and retention, ultimately strengthening lifetime value.
  • Real-world examples and tactical guidance from Ian’s long career working at the intersection of product strategy and customer engagement.

Who Should Listen

Whether you're a product marketer, customer marketing leader, or part of a cross-functional Go-To-Market (GTM) team, this episode offers actionable insights you can implement immediately to improve collaboration, clarify roles, and amplify growth. You'll come away with a framework for building stronger bridges between teams — and a clearer understanding of how marketing at every stage can contribute to measurable business impact.

Listen now and discover how aligning product and customer marketing can unlock new pathways to value, loyalty, and growth for your organization.

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